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[eohartman]

1. For all of those that believe I attacked kurtbatz and was out of line, I think you should stop and remember there are always two sides to every story. There are also, of course, two livejournals to every story. For more information on his personal attacks on me, please see his livejournal. Especially such comments from him like: "I'm amazed you managed to keep a conversation with that numbskull going for that long. I've seen braindead molluscs with more social grace than her. Like I said, she's an arrogant, self-important numbskull, who feels everything has to be 'her way or the highway' and noone elses efforts at helping bats are worth a damn, so she has to run them into the ground to improve her own sense of well being. Heck, I bet she hasn't stepped up and walked away from the computer screen for the last year or so. People are SO brave and clever when they've got a keyboard to hide behind."
Yes, there ARE two sides to every story, and it DOES take two people to fight. I don't deny ever throwing insults at him. But I do deny the fact that some people think he's completely innocent and only the "victim". After all, he hasn't been sitting quietly while this happens. In fact, several of his other "enemies" have stepped forward and said "I know what an ass he is, he over-reacted and did this shit to me, too" and "He's too over-dramatic and blowing this way out of proportion". Perhaps it's not my fault after all?

2. I never, ever said I was against Kurt's goals - to stop the selling of the bats on eBay. However, where we differ is in our views of HOW to succeed in those goals. He believes in a petition to eBay, and I think that eBay is not the proper company to be petitioning to, because they have monetary gain from the selling and exploitation of bats and no authority over other auction sites, whereas a government agency has the authority to enact and enforce such a rule, and is strictly thinking as an animal welfare organization. My reasons behind WHY I believe this are in my post. Also, in my post, I say that I applaud his efforts, and I don't think that anyone is doing any harm by signing the petition. I just don't think it's accomplishing anything, either.

3. I would also like to mention that Kurt is the one who has made this into some dramatic hoopla. I posted my *personal* views on his petition in my *personal* journal. Kurt decided to read my lj and post the link in numerous sites to make it such a huge deal. Had he never read my lj, he would have never have known I don't agree with the way he's doing his petition. He was looking for a reason to fight. Because of this, I think it's immature to spread it around and make it a community issue in several communities, when in reality, it has nothing to do with the community at all. Kurt was just trying to get attention and have a little pity party because someone disagreed with him.

4. I don't think Kurtbatz should stop petitioning and calling government officials in Thailand and all the other stuff he does. He's not doing any harm, and maybe one day he'll go in a direction that will actually succeed in getting some great laws/rules/regulations passed in the name of bat conservation and preservation. I never said he should stop in his efforts, but he should just direct them to another source.

5. Believe it or not, proposals and plans are shot down, critiqued, and otherwise dismembered all the time. In any business, there will be people above you whom you have to approve things with before you can continue working on a project, plan, or whatever. During that approval process, you may have to stand before a board of directors and prove to them that your plan is sound and will work. It is their job to critique it, and it is their job to figure out if it will not work. If it happens in the business world, it can happen in my own lj. His plan is not sound, and it will not work. Several of his Krusaders have even mentioned the fact that it's hopeless in several comments to me. If everyone is thinking it, I can say it aloud. Kurt, your plan is dumb and it will not work. The end.

6. I am not a hunter. Those who took my sentence of "And that, my friends, is exactly why it's perfectly legal for me to kill whatever animal I choose, and sell it on eBay." and interpreted it to mean I kill all animals (or any animals) for fun is misreading the quote and taking it out of context from the rest of the post. Underneath that, I wrote "Not like I would, but, ya know...I still have the right to", to make the point that while I WOULD not hunt or kill any random animal I want to, the law, as it stands right now, means I COULD. For further clarification, the only animals I have killed to date are: 4 bats, 1 possum, and 1 raccoon. The bats all had internal injuries and were near death (one caught in the grille of a car, one caught in a garage door, and two caught by cats). The possum was poisioned by Home Depot by rat poision and was too far into death for me to use charcoal on him, and the raccoon had rabies. My point of the taken-out-of-context quote was to show that the LAW is what needs to change, not a company that gets financial benefits from the selling.

7. I will leave comments enabled to this post because I welcome them. However, comments will be screened and I will only reply and unscreen those comments that are not solely for the purpose of insulting or attacking me. Constructive criticism is good, and I welcome that.

Comments

[watchmebe.livejournal.com]

I know your screening comments so I just wanted to take this moment to tell you that your breasts are large.

Just fyi.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

*is flattered* Why, thank you. Your breasts are rather large, as well.

[watchmebe.livejournal.com]

So I hear.

[slloyd.livejournal.com]

you know, your icon does kinda look like a pair of tits...

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

I want to get a tatto of my batgirl symbol.

[slloyd.livejournal.com]

That would rule!

[jujiebug51201.livejournal.com]

Well... the two of you and your large breast can just go to hell... my Barely Bs are perfectly content without flattery :)

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Barely B? I figured you'd at least be a full B...

But then again, when you flash me it's mainly because of your overly large areolas, not the boobs around them.

[jujiebug51201.livejournal.com]

It depends on whether or not I'm PMSing or not, a lot of times they are well rounded B's :)

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

lol, I don't know. He's somehow got this idea that I created a new account yesterday to bypass the fact that his friend banned me from a dead bats community (not a community about dead bats, but the community itself was pretty dead- only 30ish members, and never any posts). *shrug* I have no idea. Livejournal hasn't contacted me about it or suspended my lj or anything.

Actually, I called him an "emo kid", and that's only after he started called me a "cheeky cunt". Since we're clearly neither, they're both false names. I don't have anything against emo kids, just against drama-hoarding whiners who do nothing but want to cause trouble. It's crazy, and now I'm just having fun with it. I know my limits with lj.

[xphilega.livejournal.com]

That wasn't an account of yours? the dustinlizwed one?

Anyway, I'd get his ass in trouble for threatening you. After all, he and his friends keep talking about wanting to kill you. Yeah, I read some of the entries and stuff... what horrible people. Arrrghhh. Turn him into the police for making threats (or wait... he's in the UK... can you do that?) and maybe THEN he'll shut up.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Oh, no, the account *is* mine, I just didn't *create* it yesterday to circumvent a ban. :-) I've had that lj for awhile now, ever since invite codes disappeared, because I wanted to save the name for a wedding lj for wedding planning type stuff in it. lol

He and his Krusaders can't physically hurt me, and by now lj will do nothing to either of us because it's a two-sided argument. If I was the only one throwing insults, he'd have a possibility of actually making a case with lj abuse. He's been just as evil in his posts about me, though, so lj doesn't care. I'm still having fun with it, though, although apparently it's caused him great mental distress. I don't know why he got so worked up over it.

[zombiepuppet.livejournal.com]

I'm a drama addict, so I floated over to his Livejournal, read the following line and am now laughing painfully on the inside:

It takes about ten seconds looking through my livejournal to figure out I'm a goth

You win. Just because I like you.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Yea! I win, I win! :-) I think it's funny how he denies that he's a furry (of course, there's nothing wrong with furries!) and yet he's in all these furry communities.

[watchmebe.livejournal.com]

I'm afraid of the furries. I have nightmares that a giant rabbit is trying to rape me.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Oh, well I guess you don't like this picture, then:

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

It was in the found_objects community awhile back (maybe a year ago?). Every time I look at it I can't help but laugh a lot. It just gives me the giggles, the bunnies look like they're drunk and laughing!

[slloyd.livejournal.com]

"Like I said, she's an arrogant, self-important numbskull, who feels everything has to be 'her way or the highway' and noone elses efforts at helping bats are worth a damn, so she has to run them into the ground to improve her own sense of well being."

She was proud of my efforts to rescue a bat when I had one.

Lizzie one, stupid people and their friends, nil.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

lol. I was impressed with your efforts. You did good, considering all I could do was give you over-the-phone advice. :-) I'm quite proud of your efforts. I think the difference is that you were doing something constructive (i.e., finding ways to get the bat out of the house), whereas in that situation, Kurt would just sit there and look at the bat on the wall for a couple days, then decide to go slit his wrists. lol

[bigpeteb.livejournal.com]

Ugh. I took one look at his journal and was immediately put off by the layout. I've never seen a black-on-black journal that had content I thought was worth my time.

I honestly can't say who's right and who isn't, but at least you're being productive. All I saw in his journal was a bunch of personal attacks, without any attempt to defend his point.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, his layout is pretty bad. The text is horrible to read and you have to scroll a lot to read a paragraph with the way he has his sides.

Personal attacks aren't nearly as fun as having a logical discussion. Clearly he's unable to be logical, so he does the only thing he can do- attack someone. He has never once defended his petition to me and told me a viable plan for how it will actually, logistically, work.

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

BTW, Kurt, since I know you're reading this, I might as well inform you that livejournal has strict policies in regards to turning people in for harrassment. The harrassment has to be one sided (of which it is not), anonymous comments need to be turned off in ljs (of which they are not) and the other person ALWAYS gets to tell their side of the story.

Your friends came to me first, remember that. Therefore, that makes any of their little threats of lj abuse null and void, because THEY came HERE looking for trouble. Besides, all of which I'm posting in their ljs are DIRECT QUOTES from what they have told me. lol. All I'm merely doing is throwing it back at them. lol Technicalities suck, don't they?

[lizzie.livejournal.com]

Christ, child, you're trying to avoid all blame in this by saying I'm the one who started it, I'm the one who attacked you, I'm the one who attacked your friends. How freakin' blind are you?

I think I'll be sending a comment to lj abuse now. You have got to stop this shit and get on with your life, and apparently now you're obsessed with me and can't stop reading my lj and others comments about you. I can't believe it. I have a fan! You're my groupie!

Keep on posting about me. It lets your friends know how emotionally unstable and obsessed with me.